campbell, and for being with us this afternoon. i look forward to your testimony. >> thank you. next, congressman rush holt will introduce david chipman. >> thank you, chairman for convening the hearing and for inviting thicknesse the witness. each year hundreds of thousands are shot by guns. we need to questions but not all the deaths are murdered to only a relative few are mass murderers. summer accidents, some are suicides. there are many personal family and societal tragedies contained in those numbers. and within the rights of gun ownership and use, we must ask the hard questions. to find a way to reduce the number of tragedies. someone who can help us get to the details of this is special agent, former special agent david chipman, 25 year veteran of the bureau of alcohol, tobacco, firearms and explosives. and deep experience in the fie field. served in a supervisory role in atf in detroit, launched one of the first project safe neighborhoods to focus on preventing gun violence. mr. chipman led the atf national firearms program division here in washington where he developed